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Prioritizing Your Spouse with Carolyn Deck

Welcome back to The Mom-entum Podcast! In this special episode, I’m joined by my friend and best-selling author, Carolyn Deck. Carolyn first appeared on Episode 17, The Healing Power of Faith, where she shared her personal journey of overcoming struggles through faith and mindset shifts. Today, she’s back to share valuable insights about nurturing your relationship with your spouse, especially amidst the chaos of motherhood. 

 

In this Episode, We Discuss:

- Why it’s essential to put your spouse first in your relationship and what that truly means.

- The impact of unmet expectations and how to communicate them effectively to avoid resentment.

- Carolyn’s personal experience in her 34 years of marriage and the lessons she’s learned during challenging times.

- Simple mindset shifts and practical steps for overwhelmed moms to strengthen their marriage without feeling burdened.

- How examining your beliefs about marriage can shift the way you show up for your spouse.

- The power of seeking to understand your partner’s perspective to foster love and compassion.

 

Key Takeaways:

1. Address Unfair Expectations: When you feel resentful or angry, ask yourself if you’re holding an unfair expectation and whether you've communicated it clearly to your spouse.

2. Communicate What’s Unvoiced: Reflect on what you haven’t shared with your spouse and make sure to voice your feelings in a respectful, constructive manner.  Remember the THINK acronym shared in this episode: 

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*THINK before you speak...

T- Is it TRUE?

H- Is it HELPFUL?

I- Is it INSPIRING?

N- Is it NECESSARY?

K- Is it KIND?

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3. Examine Your Beliefs About Marriage: Your current marriage is a reflection of your beliefs. Ask yourself if these beliefs are helping or hindering your relationship and adjust accordingly.

4. Seek to Understand: Put yourself in your partner’s shoes to better understand their needs, fears, and desires. This helps build compassion and fosters deeper connections.

 

Carolyn’s Books:

- Above the Turbulence: Your Ticket Out of Pain to Purpose – A powerful book about overcoming challenges and transforming your mindset to rise above life’s difficulties.

- Christian Marriage: Devotionals from Both Perspectives – A devotional for couples, co-authored by Carolyn, featuring real stories and advice for building strong, Christ-centered marriages.

 

Resources Mentioned:

 

- BSF (Virtual Bible Study Fellowship

- Faces with Names YouTube Clip

- Learn more about Faces with Names and how you can contribute to their mission to help orphans & widows move beyond a life of survival, and thrive, to fulfill their God given purpose by visiting their website faceswithnames.org.

- Jesus Calling Devotional by Sarah Young

- 5 Love Languages by Gary Chapman

-Carolyn also asked that I share this added resource that goes perfectly with the theme of today's show.  Have your husband give it a listen, too! https://www.davidjeremiah.org/radio/player?id=4601

 

Connect with Carolyn:

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- Follow Carolyn on social media for more uplifting content.

-Facebook: Carolyn Deck

-Instragram:  @carolyn.deck

 

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TRANSCRIPT

Hello and welcome to another episode of The Mom-entum Podcast.  I’m your host, Tanya Valentine, and I’m so excited that you decided to join me today on this very special episode.  

 

Today I am interviewing my friend and best-selling author, Carolyn Deck.  Carolyn is not a stranger to the Mom-entum Podcast, she actually made an appearance on the show in episode number 17 That aired January 10 of this year titled The Healing Power of Faith with Carolyn Deck.  In that episode she spoke about her book Above The Turbulence: Your Ticket Out of Pain to Purpose, the struggles that she has been through as a mom of 5 raising her family in a foreign country often on her own as her husband frequently was away traveling for work.  

She shared how she got through the difficult times and even found healing from a dysfunctional, traumatic childhood by leaning on her faith and changing her mindset.  If you are going through a difficult time right now and you're looking for something inspiring to lift your spirits, I highly suggest giving that one a listen and I will link it in the show notes for you.  

 

On today’s episode, Carolyn returns to share insights on how we can nurture our relationship with our spouse, even amidst the beautiful chaos and busyness of motherhood. And she knows a thing or two—she’s been married for 34 years! Carolyn also co-authored the devotional Christian Marriage: Devotionals from Both Perspectives, a collection of real stories from couples who have faced real challenges, offering their advice on cultivating strong, enduring relationships rooted in Christ.

 

In today’s episode Carolyn is going to talk about why it is important to prioritize our spouse and our relationship as she uncovers some simple mindset shifts essential to building stronger relationships with our partners. 

 

So if you are ready to transform your relationship and cultivate more peace and love in your home, then this is the episode for you! So grab a pen and paper because your going to want to take notes, and let’s dive into my conversation with my friend, Carolyn Deck.

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Tanya: All right, hey, Carolyn, welcome back to the momentum. Podcast. Thank you. So much for being here.

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carolyndeck: Thank you, Tanya. Lovely to be here again.

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Tanya: I'm so happy to have you back.

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Tanya: And before we get into what we're going to be talking about today, would you mind just introducing yourself to the audience for those who might not be familiar with you. Just tell them a little bit about yourself and your background, and what it is that you do.

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carolyndeck: Sure. Thank you. So yes, Carolyn Deck, as you can tell, I'm not from here. I'm from New Zealand. Haven't actually lived there for 30 years happily married with 5 children, 5 beautiful adult children, and a new daughter in law.

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carolyndeck: And we've just found out we're going to be 1st time grandparents. So that's so exciting. We're so excited. Yeah. Our 3rd son, Harry.

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carolyndeck: Presently we live in Chicago, my husband and I our daughter's here. Our son and his wife were here. They've just moved to Michigan.

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carolyndeck: To be around her family. I have a son in Charlotte and a son, who is in Amsterdam right now, but he's relocating to Melbourne, Australia.

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carolyndeck: And then my eldest son lives in South Australia, in Adelaide. So yes, we're quite global.

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Tanya: Wow!

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carolyndeck: Yes, and that all started. Actually, this whole transition of move, you know, this is the theme of my life. Actually, when I paused and and looked back for a bit.

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carolyndeck: yes, I was an exchange student in Kansas in the year 81. That's how old I am. That's when I graduated. So that's very cool. And then I returned to New Zealand and got into the travel industry.

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carolyndeck: where?

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carolyndeck: Yeah, it was amazing.

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carolyndeck: I was in travel as an agent for

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carolyndeck: something like 12 years.

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carolyndeck: I got engaged in Cape Town

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carolyndeck: to my

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carolyndeck: fairly long standing boyfriend and then, we started having children. We had 4 children pretty quickly. Actually, I'm just like Whoa, what happened? I'm 30 now. I'm 35, with 4 kids. It's like.

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carolyndeck: had it never been

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carolyndeck: at Brendan's 1 of 5. He's there's 4 boys and a girl in his family, and 4 boys and a girl and mine and bought in ours. So funny. Yeah, and then we relocate to Australia. Had 15 years there raising our kids. Oh, and then we had one more.

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carolyndeck: Cheeky, William.

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carolyndeck: Adorable. Yeah, just incredible, incredibly blessed, amazing kids. Just love them to bits. We then moved after about 13 years. I think it was to another city in Australia.

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carolyndeck: had 3 years there, and then moved to Chicago, and this is our 10th year.

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Tanya: Well.

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carolyndeck: Yeah. And actually, as we speak,

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carolyndeck: my husband's coming into retirement from his role up here, which was supposed to be 3 years, and ended up nearly 10. His term finishes at the end of this month, and at the end of the year we relocate back to Australia.

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carolyndeck: So it's.

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Tanya: Lots of moving around.

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carolyndeck: Challenged. Yeah?

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Tanya: And.

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carolyndeck: Turbulent times, plenty of change.

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carolyndeck: plenty of challenge.

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carolyndeck: but I just embrace it all. I love it. I've traveled so much since being here. I'm just so grateful for

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carolyndeck: fertile.

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Tanya: Yeah.

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Tanya: Oh, yeah, that is not like the ordinary, the average person's life, all that traveling around. But I'm sure you've

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Tanya: seen so much and just been exposed to just a lot of different

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Tanya: things like different cultures. And I mean, you're so brave, for I think.

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Tanya: Living somewhere other than the country that you were born in. I think that.

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carolyndeck: Yeah.

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carolyndeck: Oh, well, thank you. Yeah. I mean, there's a back story to that which I think you do know about. Just having a dysfunctional childhood. Actually. And I I was

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carolyndeck: that theme of movement happened before I was an exchange student.

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carolyndeck: and then years on

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carolyndeck: you know, getting to America and

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carolyndeck: relocating back here.

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carolyndeck: God just had me on this path that

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carolyndeck: has been quite

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carolyndeck: miraculous. I'll say I'll say it's all his doing. It really is

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carolyndeck: And he brought me

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carolyndeck: to this place where I needed some of this healing done from my childhood, and and with my parents, and and seeing as a generational pain that continues and what he did he took me to a place of having now become an author, which I can't even imagine how I got there. But this is my book. And the Lord just

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carolyndeck: walked me through all this because I had no idea what I was doing, and I actually had a little argument with him going. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard like me, and write a story right? Be an author. You you got the wrong sister. I just say I just put it out there like my sister's so smart educated, you know. I went through high school, and that was it, as far as my formative training. And he goes, really.

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carolyndeck: Not so. I've selected you purposefully because you don't know what you're doing.

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carolyndeck: I'm like, oh.

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carolyndeck: yeah, kind of know the Bible stories pretty well. Yeah. You usually choose people that aren't that burst. And and what you're calling them to do, because for those who called you provide. And I'm like, Oh, yeah, I knew that. And then I said, Oh, my story is nothing. No one's going to read that, and he goes. Excuse me wrong.

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carolyndeck: History

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carolyndeck: is his story.

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Tanya: Hmm.

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carolyndeck: And it's not actually about you. It's this time in history.

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carolyndeck: and what I've done in your life.

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carolyndeck: and I want you to share that as

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carolyndeck: a light in the darkness of the world right now. Because let's face it. It's pretty messed up place, and I think people are really

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carolyndeck: really open to hearing

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carolyndeck: something inspirational, encouraging, and being given hope.

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carolyndeck: And and that's what it's about. Yeah.

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Tanya: Definitely.

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Tanya: I love that.

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Tanya: And can you, too, say cause for the people at home that aren't watching and aren't able to see your book? Can you.

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carolyndeck: Sure.

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Tanya: Say the title of your book.

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carolyndeck: Okay? Sure. So you can find it on Amazon or type my name in. But it's above the turbulence, your ticket out of pain to purpose.

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Tanya: Awesome.

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carolyndeck: So it's a really basic easy read. And it's as if you've come into my travel office. I write it as a travel agent. So I give you advice on, on, in the beginning of your journey, what you need to prepare for your journey, how to pack

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carolyndeck: the perils of travel

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carolyndeck: modes of travel, destinations.

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carolyndeck: and then returning home. And so each little story, each chapter rather, is a little short story, usually about 4 or 5 pages long.

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carolyndeck: but at the end of each chapter.

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carolyndeck: I have a reflection question, because.

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carolyndeck: My experience has been that unless we stop and pause

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carolyndeck: like, you can have a good read. But it's not going to amount to much if it doesn't move the dial.

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Tanya: Yeah, like, you got.

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carolyndeck: Amazing.

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Tanya: Practice, like Apply.

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carolyndeck: Yeah, well.

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Tanya: This is a way of applying.

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carolyndeck: Who's the name?

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Tanya: Like right.

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carolyndeck: Yeah, yeah, so I asked very pertinent questions.

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carolyndeck: Pretty prickly, some of them. I'll I'll just tell you and actually, in my introduction. It basically says, I'm I'm pretty blunt. I'm like, if you're not prepared to be honest with yourself

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carolyndeck: and asking some of these questions.

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carolyndeck: then this book probably isn't for you.

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Tanya: Yeah, because you.

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carolyndeck: I want.

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carolyndeck: Yeah, I I want to guide and lead people into having a hope filled

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carolyndeck: awesome life.

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Tanya: Hmm.

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carolyndeck: Right, irrespective of the past, it has shaped us, but I actually use it as your fuel

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carolyndeck: for your future. And so it is. It is pretty powerful, and it's just what God has done in me and showing me. It's not about me.

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carolyndeck: but it is incredible. And where he's taken this little book that breached lives that there's no way I would have reached, you know, people in jail.

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carolyndeck: youth, detention centres

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carolyndeck: and even yes, Africa and so I'll just might as well tell you. Now all proceeds of my book. Go to faces with names. Which is

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carolyndeck: a foundation. My writing friend started nearly 10 years ago, and I think we talked about this

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carolyndeck: for the show. There'll be a Youtube clip that you can watch that you'll be so encouraged by to see these kids, that orphans and widows in Uganda.

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carolyndeck: and what

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carolyndeck: work has been done for these kids, these kids that maybe forgotten or

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carolyndeck: looked upon as hopeless. I tell you what, that is not the case, and that's not the case for any of us, irrespective of our stories.

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Tanya: I love that. Yeah. And yeah, I'll be sure to link that in the show notes.

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carolyndeck: Yeah.

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Tanya: All who want to watch it.

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Tanya: well, I am so excited to have you back on today, and just to give everyone context for what we're going to be talking about. You and I have stayed in touch since the last interview.

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Tanya: and you're always sending me encouraging messages.

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Tanya: and I thank you so much for that, and it seems like they always come

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Tanya: in a time when I need them the most.

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Tanya: But it's been a few times now. In our exchanges. You mentioned how God wants us to well, put him first, st but then our husband.

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Tanya: and just recently it was, I think it was last week you reminded me of this.

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Tanya: and

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Tanya: I thought this would be an excellent topic for a podcast. Episode, and who better to come on and talk about it than you.

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Tanya: Yes, so how many years and how many years have you and Brendan been married for.

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carolyndeck: 34.

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Tanya: 30 for 4 years, that.

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carolyndeck: Yes, amazing.

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carolyndeck: And we were together. We broke up at 1 point because I didn't want to change him.

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carolyndeck: And I'm like, you know what you do you?

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carolyndeck: Right now, this is bad timing. This is not my season to be a lame duck following you so. Yeah, I what did I do what I do? I love to travel, and I quit my job, and I traveled for 6 months.

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carolyndeck: and I just gave him that space.

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carolyndeck: he was so he he jokes about this. But this is kind of funny. I love Rugby, and and my dad raised me as a boy, and that's probably why I love Rugby. But he played so much Rugby, and he was so

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carolyndeck: focused on his Rugby and his mates that he said that he woke up 6 months later and was like, Oh.

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carolyndeck: where's Carolyn actually?

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carolyndeck: Oh, my God!

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Tanya: I'm not.

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carolyndeck: Where'd chicken.

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Tanya: Oh!

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carolyndeck: You go. So that's kind of funny. We joke about that. But I really believe for me and for the 2 of us

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carolyndeck: that. You know, if anyone's even single and and looking at being a mom. Because I know this is for mom's momentum, this amazing podcast but you know, ladies, we we don't want to force our men into change right.

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Tanya: Hmm.

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carolyndeck: And

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carolyndeck: that just doesn't really work.

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Tanya: And.

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carolyndeck: Does is bring tension and conflict. So we need to work on ourselves. Yeah. And so what I found for me

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carolyndeck: I don't know. I I just feel like the Lord just was speaking to me even when I didn't know it going. Don't you think you're gonna change him? Don't force him into a corner to change just because you need this or that. No, no, you work on you. And so that was part of me leaving. I'm not suggesting in your marriage lately. But no, but for me in this point in time

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carolyndeck: I did, and I gave him that space, and I worked on me, and I worked on what I was thinking and my expectations of him. And you know I did end up in Africa interestingly and round a campfire, and I wrote this little note to myself of these expectations and things that I was looking for and wanting, and and quite honestly, you know.

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carolyndeck: as a now mature, more mature person. Let's say I'm still learning. But, the Lord just says you know what

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carolyndeck: You know, you haven't noticed this, or you haven't asked about my day. Well, he's still trying to unload and process his day, you know.

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carolyndeck: And having. What am I listening to? Am I listening to other moms? Just

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carolyndeck: So I just listened to an amazing Podcast this week, Dr. Joe Dispenza.

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Tanya: It makes me think about that acronym think which they teach my daughter in elementary school that think before you speak so I think he is well, so before you speak. Have you heard of this.

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carolyndeck: And when we believe Andy Stanley, I did a whole course on this. Andy Stanley says what you believe you act on.

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carolyndeck: Yes, absolutely. Yeah. I love that. I need to write that. Think down.

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carolyndeck: Your Bible, and I met this dear old lady. There's a notice up. An announcement made anybody able to pick up Mavis.

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carolyndeck: So.

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carolyndeck: Actually got that from my dear.

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carolyndeck: sweet old lady, Mavis.

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Tanya: I love that. Yeah.

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Tanya: Oh, cause I would. Yeah, I mean, I'm sure a lot of the husbands out there, including mine, might feel like they come last, or at least like second to the kids, you know, certain seasons of like, or you know.

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Tanya: and for some people, even a whole, their whole lives, even their.

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carolyndeck: And they have adult.

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Tanya: Kids.

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carolyndeck: Yes.

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Tanya: And I'm sure that there are going to be some women who are listening.

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Tanya: and they might disagree with this concept.

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Tanya: or maybe they just have, like a skewed sense of what we mean when we say spells first.st So maybe you could start by 1st clarifying what.

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carolyndeck: So.

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Tanya: Teens to put ourselves first.st

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carolyndeck: First.st

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Tanya: And what it looks like, and then 2.

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carolyndeck: Sure.

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Tanya: Why is it important? And why does it matter which you kind of alluded to?

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carolyndeck: Yeah, sure.

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Tanya: You know, and sure what what Mavis said.

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carolyndeck: Okay? So

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carolyndeck: again, you had to go back

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carolyndeck: to fundamental belief.

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carolyndeck: What is marriage? Define marriage?

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carolyndeck: What does it look like?

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carolyndeck: Well.

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carolyndeck: go to the one who created it. It's like anything created. It comes with a handbook right.

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carolyndeck: So what does God say? Marriage looks like?

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carolyndeck: And actually, in a book, I co-authored Christian marriage.

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carolyndeck: I think you've got a copy there, haven't you?

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Tanya: Christian marriage devotionals from both perspectives.

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carolyndeck: Both. Yes, so the piece that I wrote on was specifically on this.

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carolyndeck: What does it look like for the man?

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carolyndeck: And what does it look like for the woman.

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carolyndeck: and I would encourage you all, ladies, to to explore this.

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carolyndeck: See what God actually says.

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carolyndeck: A woman A woman in marriage

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carolyndeck: to her husband looks like.

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carolyndeck: and

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carolyndeck: again,

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carolyndeck: It brings to mind

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carolyndeck: a speaking engagement I went to and save the children. I think it was.

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carolyndeck: whoever he is, the head of global save the children, was doing a tour, and his wife happened to be in. Adelaide.

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carolyndeck: and I went to listen to her speak.

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carolyndeck: and that really changed the dial for me as to what this whole

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carolyndeck: but has been 1st sort of

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carolyndeck: role looks like.

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carolyndeck: And so

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carolyndeck: I teamed that up with what God is saying.

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carolyndeck: And so marriage.

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carolyndeck: it said actually that God provided Adam

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carolyndeck: a helper.

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carolyndeck: Now, before you will get angry about that word helper.

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carolyndeck: This would help, and I I guess it's the Hebrew or the Greek.

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carolyndeck: The 1st writings of the Bible.

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carolyndeck: It is only ever used.

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carolyndeck: That word was only ever used when talking about

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carolyndeck: the Holy Spirit.

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carolyndeck: So think about that for a minute. What did Jesus say?

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carolyndeck: He said.

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carolyndeck: I'll have to leave.

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carolyndeck: I've come from God

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carolyndeck: right

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carolyndeck: to heaven! To earth, to be with you!

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carolyndeck: But don't be dismayed or upset. I have to leave because I have to leave, so that then I can provide you the helper.

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Tanya: Hmm.

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carolyndeck: The helper, that when you say yes to him

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carolyndeck: he will internally live in your heart, and he will be your helper. He will be your guide. Well, I can assure you now

421
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carolyndeck: the Holy Spirit is not subservient to God, the Father, or God the Son.

422
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carolyndeck: They are on the same level

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carolyndeck: right.

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carolyndeck: But that was beautiful, that God

425
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carolyndeck: had my husband and I come in unity.

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carolyndeck: and I was his godly helper. I thought that was that almost puts me on the throne right.

427
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carolyndeck: I kind of thought which was kind of funny. And so what does it say when you know when it says, Submit to your husband's. It doesn't mean be a doormat. It means this, this Holy Spirit helper.

428
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carolyndeck: The Holy Spirit's not a doormat to Jesus or to the Father. They have this beautiful

429
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carolyndeck: unity.

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carolyndeck: Blend of

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carolyndeck: yeah, communication in unity.

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carolyndeck: So that got me thinking.

433
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carolyndeck: how did that then look? If I'm to be this godly helper to my husband.

434
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carolyndeck: and it tells you very clearly in the Bible how we're to do that, and we do things that are honoring to him that are respectful to Him.

435
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carolyndeck: Right? Just as the Holy Spirit is honoring and respectful to the Lord and the Father.

436
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carolyndeck: and and all things. You do it out of this unity, which is what love. Well, didn't you get married in the 1st place, because you're in love.

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Tanya: Yeah.

438
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carolyndeck: Right. And so this Doctor Joe again, if your heart

439
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carolyndeck: it's heart filled with love.

440
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carolyndeck: and you draw from that. Well.

441
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carolyndeck: then, you're thinking.

442
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carolyndeck: can be this Holy Spirit helper as a wife.

443
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carolyndeck: Not this cranky. He doesn't do anything for me. He never helps with the kids. Why can't he do the dishes or hang out the washing, you know, it just really changes the dial of your thinking.

444
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carolyndeck: And when we start to do that.

445
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carolyndeck: your

446
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carolyndeck: actions catch up

447
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carolyndeck: right, and then slowly but surely, actually

448
00:34:56.219 --> 00:35:00.050
carolyndeck: so too, does your mind start to change.

449
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carolyndeck: and so

450
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carolyndeck: I turned the table on my

451
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carolyndeck: at times anger and resentment, with all his travelling and everything to be.

452
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carolyndeck: How can I

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carolyndeck: possibly have it.

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carolyndeck: so that when my husband walks in the door he feels joy.

455
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Tanya: Hmm.

456
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carolyndeck: Because he wants to be at home with his wife and children. He really does.

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carolyndeck: Or not. I mean, if if we're sowing the seeds of resentment and anger, they're going to grow up to be these big, ugly, just weeds in our house. Right? So I'm like.

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Tanya: Yeah.

459
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carolyndeck: I so then, who would want to come?

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Tanya: Home to that too.

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carolyndeck: Exactly. Exactly so. We don't want that. So do the question back to your heart. What does my heart really want? I want to be loved and cherished.

462
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carolyndeck: And this is what God tells the man to do to treat his wife like a precious jewel.

463
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Tanya: Thomas.

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carolyndeck: Right as Christ loves the Church. Well, Christ died for the Church.

465
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carolyndeck: So how is that going to look so? Yes, so it got me thinking.

466
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carolyndeck: how is it I'm going to make this home

467
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carolyndeck: so welcoming and full of love and peace and joy, so that when my husband walks through the door.

468
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carolyndeck: He's going. Oh.

469
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carolyndeck: thank goodness.

470
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carolyndeck: you know. Thank goodness I'm home.

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Tanya: Yeah.

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carolyndeck: It's very

473
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carolyndeck: my sanctuary. So I started that really did fire me up to go right? I I do want this

474
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carolyndeck: place an order.

475
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carolyndeck: Okay, a few toys over there. Fine!

476
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carolyndeck: But I do want him to come home to. Yes, love still is in the valley. The way to a man's heart is through cooking and food, and I think I sent you a photo, didn't I? Last week? I'm like, call me old fashioned, but and it was my dinner that I would cook for my husband. And he just come home from wherever you'd been on. Sometimes I forget. I don't know if he's in Mexico, Canada, or just, you know, down the road?

477
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carolyndeck: So I'm just

478
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carolyndeck: planting a few seeds, girls, that you can actually

479
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carolyndeck: use the energy that you're wasting

480
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carolyndeck: because it's exhausting, being angry. Actually, it's really exhausting when you're frustrated and

481
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carolyndeck: so use that energy and go when you're vacuuming.

carolyndeck: And I've got a chapter on this. Actually.

483
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carolyndeck: it's really it's a kind of cool chapter flight diverted. Oh, here it is, chapter 10. I even landed on it

484
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carolyndeck: when I was just so cranky. And and I was thinking I was having all this time to myself, and all I saw was chores by the end of it, though I am vacuuming because I've turned on Christian music. I'm being filled in my heart, even though my head's cranky.

485
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carolyndeck: and I'm vacuuming, and I just hear this worship, and I'm like.

486
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carolyndeck: Oh.

487
00:38:10.890 --> 00:38:13.479
carolyndeck: you know you! He raises you up

488
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carolyndeck: to these higher mountains, you know, and I'm just like, Oh, now I'm crying, and I'm going. I'm so grateful. I have a husband, I'm so grateful.

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Tanya: Yeah.

490
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carolyndeck: This floor to clean. I'm so grateful that I've got washing, because that means I have someone that lives here with me.

491
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Tanya: Enough.

492
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carolyndeck: Me. Oh, I'm so grateful, and I'm like, Oh, dear, I think you know, read Chapter 10. It's cool. I really love my chapter 10. It's, you know, because then I see an old plant in the corner as I'm vacuuming around. There's dog hair, and there's you know, it's just filthy, dirty whatever. And I see this plant that's like.

493
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carolyndeck: and I'm like, Oh, dear! That poor plant! It needs a bit of water. It needs some food. It needs pruning. And then I'm like, Oh, yeah, that's try it. God's the I need to stay attached to the vine.

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carolyndeck: doesn't it? Say when you stay attached to the vine, which is basically stay in God's word, stay attached to him. He's the gardener. He's going to prune off limbs that are dead that aren't fruitful, and I'm just like well, that wasn't fruitful of my thinking.

495
00:39:19.150 --> 00:39:26.350
carolyndeck: being so cranky because I have washing, and I've got a dirty floor that's not fruitful, and by the end of it

496
00:39:27.570 --> 00:39:28.759
carolyndeck: I'm like, oh.

497
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carolyndeck: I just had a little bit of pruning done on myself, you know. God had pruned these dead limbs, and he'd watered me from his well of love and sufficiency. It was so precious. And just when I didn't think I had any time, because I had all these chores

498
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carolyndeck: I found myself with 4 h

499
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carolyndeck: I could start to write, because it's so funny, because I was in the process of writing.

500
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carolyndeck: Not only could I? My day extended, even though I thought it was going to diminish.

501
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carolyndeck: I got more time to write, and then, when my dog got home, he was exhausted, so he was in the corner asleep. I had time to cook a yummy dinner for my husband, so he did walk through the door clean house smelling. I think it was chicken, curry, or something, and I still got to do what I wanted.

502
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carolyndeck: It was like.

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Tanya: Hmm.

504
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carolyndeck: Wow!

505
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Tanya: And funny when you changed your thinking.

506
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carolyndeck: Unbelievable, unbelievable, and I filled up with this joy that he gave me because I chose to turn on. I changed the dial. I turned off my thinking.

507
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carolyndeck: turned on this beautiful music that just washed through my head into my heart, into my soul.

508
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carolyndeck: and gave me an attitude of gratitude, and it just changed my day.

509
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Tanya: And when, yeah, and

510
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Tanya: when you can focus on what you're grateful for.

511
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Tanya: and all that you do have, then

512
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Tanya: you can be trusted with more than you're given.

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carolyndeck: Yes, yes, and that's what you told me this week. Remember you, you sent me a message. I love that in the Daily Hope message that when we are grateful for all God gives us, guess what He gives us more to be grateful for.

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carolyndeck: Yeah, so that's what you.

515
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Tanya: So you got more time.

516
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carolyndeck: Yes, I got more time. I got so much better writing done.

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Tanya: Hmm.

518
00:41:28.550 --> 00:41:28.940
carolyndeck: Because.

519
00:41:28.940 --> 00:41:36.190
Tanya: Yeah, cause you were the energy. You were the energy of gratitude, and not that low vibe energy of resentment.

520
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carolyndeck: Yes.

521
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Tanya: Yeah.

522
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carolyndeck: I love Rick Warren. I love him so much, you know he goes, girls.

523
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carolyndeck: you gotta take the garbage out. It's stinking in there.

524
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Tanya: Like.

525
00:41:47.490 --> 00:41:49.322
carolyndeck: Take the garbage out.

526
00:41:49.780 --> 00:41:50.870
Tanya: Yeah.

527
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carolyndeck: Yeah.

528
00:41:52.890 --> 00:42:02.259
carolyndeck: So I don't know if that helps. I hope it helps a little bit for some of these for some of you girls that are just weighed down by it all.

529
00:42:02.520 --> 00:42:03.130
carolyndeck: It.

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Tanya: It. Well, I I think it's hard to do in the moment, but if you could just.

531
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carolyndeck: Hmm.

532
00:42:09.160 --> 00:42:21.930
Tanya: Yeah, it really is like, just take that moment to pause and really reflect on. Just know that it's your thinking and your beliefs which your beliefs are just something that you thought over and over again right.

533
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carolyndeck: Yes. Yeah.

534
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Tanya: So in your 34 years of being married right, you said 30.

535
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carolyndeck: Before.

536
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Tanya: I'm sure it hasn't been all sunshine and rainbows.

537
00:42:32.770 --> 00:42:33.420
carolyndeck: No, I.

538
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Tanya: And in the most difficult times.

539
00:42:36.980 --> 00:42:40.129
Tanya: What would you say? What was it that got you through.

540
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carolyndeck: The the gold thread in my marriage

541
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carolyndeck: most definitely.

542
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carolyndeck: unequivocably.

543
00:42:50.500 --> 00:42:51.479
carolyndeck: It was

544
00:42:51.990 --> 00:42:54.709
carolyndeck: my gold thread of connection

545
00:42:54.970 --> 00:42:57.170
carolyndeck: with the Lord that kept us

546
00:42:57.460 --> 00:43:03.669
carolyndeck: like this, otherwise we would have unraveled, and our rope would have probably gone like that.

547
00:43:04.500 --> 00:43:05.070
Tanya: Hmm.

548
00:43:05.070 --> 00:43:07.170
carolyndeck: So if you can picture a rope.

549
00:43:08.170 --> 00:43:13.210
carolyndeck: a piece of string on its own is useless. Really. Yeah, it's not going to carry much weight

550
00:43:13.670 --> 00:43:18.450
carolyndeck: and twine it with another piece, and that's far stronger, right?

551
00:43:18.780 --> 00:43:22.480
carolyndeck: But have this golden rope through that.

552
00:43:22.770 --> 00:43:25.249
carolyndeck: That is what will hold you together.

553
00:43:26.350 --> 00:43:29.679
Tanya: So what would you? So would you say? That's your faith.

554
00:43:30.580 --> 00:43:34.350
carolyndeck: Yes, it's it, is it? Totally is. It's my.

555
00:43:35.960 --> 00:43:36.349
Tanya: And his.

556
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carolyndeck: Need to.

557
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Tanya: Zoom.

558
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carolyndeck: Yes, yes, yeah, I mean.

559
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carolyndeck: I'll I'll be honest. We're we're we're not

560
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carolyndeck: unev. We are unevenly yoked in that.

561
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carolyndeck: you know. I've done 22 plus years of Bible study

562
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carolyndeck: right? My husband's been working.

563
00:43:59.184 --> 00:44:03.229
carolyndeck: you know. He'll come to church. He gets fed there

564
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carolyndeck: And so, instead of

565
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carolyndeck: perhaps, and at times I'm sure I have lectured him about. You know his faith and and where he's at. But you know

566
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carolyndeck: mine is.

567
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carolyndeck: let's say

568
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carolyndeck: that relationship

569
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carolyndeck: has. Because let's face it. Christianity isn't religion, girls. I'll just throw that out there. It's a relationship. So I have a very, very close relationship with the Lord.

570
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carolyndeck: and and and it's like.

571
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carolyndeck: think of your marriage like you were really close when you were courting, you were dating, and oh, my gosh! You could only ever think of each other. You speak to each other so often, and then, as your marriage goes, you know, have less and less and less time. Right? So you gotta be intentional. So.

572
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Tanya: Yeah, yeah.

573
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carolyndeck: Intentional with

574
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carolyndeck: keeping close to the vine, and being in the word because he is, he has over and over and over again been there when I've been crying in the shower

575
00:45:14.430 --> 00:45:22.973
carolyndeck: right? Because I'm either exhausted. I'm in pain, I mean, I've had a lot of surgery done, too. Etc. But

576
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carolyndeck: what it does. And we were talking about this before we came on

577
00:45:30.770 --> 00:45:31.770
carolyndeck: that

578
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carolyndeck: that basic instruction before leaving Earth, that word that God's living word

579
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carolyndeck: is so here in my heart and in my head.

580
00:45:42.680 --> 00:45:43.640
carolyndeck: that

581
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carolyndeck: it's so close that

582
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carolyndeck: I can just think of a verse

583
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carolyndeck: right.

584
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carolyndeck: which then fills my head, which then I think the Lord said, You know you can pray, Lord, capture my thoughts, please capture my thoughts, take them away

585
00:46:00.200 --> 00:46:02.090
carolyndeck: because they're not healthy, and.

586
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Tanya: Yeah.

587
00:46:02.450 --> 00:46:02.770
carolyndeck: Right.

588
00:46:02.770 --> 00:46:03.290
Tanya: Be unhappy.

589
00:46:03.290 --> 00:46:03.670
carolyndeck: So.

590
00:46:03.670 --> 00:46:04.400
Tanya: Ones.

591
00:46:04.590 --> 00:46:09.099
carolyndeck: The unhealthy ones. And so my relationship

592
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carolyndeck: is more mature. Let's just say my husband has faith absolutely. We were baptized together. It was so pretty.

593
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Tanya: Were you.

594
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carolyndeck: Yeah. In Chicago, yeah.

595
00:46:19.300 --> 00:46:20.720
Tanya: Oh, that's so cool!

596
00:46:20.720 --> 00:46:27.236
carolyndeck: Know it was so precious. Oh, my goodness! That affirmation together!

597
00:46:28.120 --> 00:46:29.710
carolyndeck: And so

598
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carolyndeck: I just have to.

599
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carolyndeck: You know, I I put a post up actually, this week. I don't know if you guys want to follow me on Instagram or Facebook, but Megan Marshman.

600
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carolyndeck: she is an incredible

601
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carolyndeck: preacher. She's part of our willow Chicago team. Oh,

602
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carolyndeck: sorry not willow Chicago willow

603
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carolyndeck: team. And

604
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carolyndeck: she was saying

605
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carolyndeck: that God can use even those bad bits. You know, Romans 8, 28 that he uses

606
00:47:03.400 --> 00:47:08.169
carolyndeck: bad for good, and you're going. What part of this good can he use?

607
00:47:08.860 --> 00:47:12.600
carolyndeck: Well, sorry, what what part of this bad can he use for good?

608
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carolyndeck: Her husband just dropped dead. She had 3 young boys, but.

609
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Tanya: Was like.

610
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carolyndeck: 4 years ago.

611
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Tanya: Oh, my gosh! That's.

612
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carolyndeck: I know I think right.

613
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Tanya: I'm nervous.

614
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carolyndeck: And she goes. She she spoke on. Grief.

615
00:47:27.115 --> 00:47:33.739
carolyndeck: Oh, it's so, anyway. You could follow her some of her books. Incredible! But what she was saying this week was

616
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carolyndeck: that he can use those parts of our lives that are so painful, and he can turn them into good.

617
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carolyndeck: But again, like? I asked at the beginning, what does your head believe marriage to look like, or what do you believe? Good to look like.

618
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Tanya: Yeah.

619
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carolyndeck: Well, guess what good

620
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carolyndeck: God's definition of good isn't ours, and what is good?

621
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carolyndeck: God is good.

622
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carolyndeck: and His work in us is what to transform us to look like Jesus.

623
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carolyndeck: So in the bad. That's what he's doing constantly. He's saying, you come to me. You focus on me.

624
00:48:13.760 --> 00:48:16.490
carolyndeck: I will just draw you that much closer

625
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carolyndeck: to being like Jesus, right? And so when our marriage

626
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carolyndeck: was

627
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carolyndeck: trying.

628
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carolyndeck: and it was with lots of kids, and I'm traveling a lot.

629
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Tanya: All the traveling. Yeah.

630
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carolyndeck: And my expectation. That was until those dials started. To change of my thinking.

631
00:48:36.690 --> 00:48:42.790
carolyndeck: God used that trial for good, because guess what he did change the dial of my thinking.

632
00:48:42.840 --> 00:48:44.030
carolyndeck: He did

633
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carolyndeck: bring this lady to me to say, Come to Bible study, and here's me thinking, believing I didn't have time. Well, I got to the point where I said to myself, I don't have

634
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carolyndeck: time not to do this. I have to do this.

635
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carolyndeck: and.

636
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carolyndeck: So.

637
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carolyndeck: Yes, that was really that really is foundational

638
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carolyndeck: is is that thread the golden thread, and my intentionality to communicate, to commune, and to to hear what God has for me each day.

639
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carolyndeck: And making the time for that. And I would suggest you do it at the beginning of the day. Girls, yeah.

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Tanya: Yeah.

641
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carolyndeck: Before the wheels fall off. I've got a great resource here. The Jesus calling devotional is

642
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carolyndeck: so precious.

643
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carolyndeck: and I was given to me. This was given to me by my Irish friend, actually, and it's got Jesus talking to us in the 1st person.

644
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carolyndeck: So I just turned to a page here. February 8. I am above all things. This was for that day

645
00:49:56.020 --> 00:50:02.379
carolyndeck: your problems, your pain, and the swirling events in this ever changing world.

646
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carolyndeck: I'm above all this.

647
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carolyndeck: Hence my book above the top.

648
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Tanya: Above the turbulence.

649
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carolyndeck: Right. You've got to get to his.

650
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Tanya: I love being.

651
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carolyndeck: Dove.

652
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Tanya: Yeah.

653
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carolyndeck: And

654
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carolyndeck: rise above, and you know how you do that. It's so precious.

655
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carolyndeck: I did

656
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carolyndeck: I listened to a sermon once. It was so powerful.

657
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carolyndeck: It was all about the eagle.

658
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carolyndeck: The whole sermon was about an eagle.

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carolyndeck: This is weird, like an eagle. Well, just to summarize God created the eagles, the only bird on the planet that does this only bird that does this when there's a massive storm, like the storm, like huge storm.

660
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carolyndeck: Eagle

661
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carolyndeck: sticks its wings out, puts his board.

662
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carolyndeck: and flies towards the storm.

663
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carolyndeck: and then what happens? He keeps his wings out. He's not flapping, going. I'm out of control. He is steady, his wings are out, his head is forward.

664
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carolyndeck: and the what do they call that? The

665
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carolyndeck: The force of the storm.

666
00:51:11.950 --> 00:51:14.160
carolyndeck: actually, with his wings out.

667
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carolyndeck: forces this bird to fly above, and he's not even using any of his own energy.

668
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carolyndeck: None of his own.

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Tanya: James.

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carolyndeck: No, no flapping of his wings at all. He just sticks his arms out.

671
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carolyndeck: his arms, his wings even. I'm looking at me with my

672
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carolyndeck: so and I've got really long arms. Yeah, it's kind of funny my kids joke at me. So the eagle does this. And this is what God says, he says.

673
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carolyndeck: What I want for you is to have to to fly like the wings of the eagle.

674
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carolyndeck: right to rise above the storm, and when you get up there, you see my perspective. It's now calm. You've used none of your own energy at all.

675
00:52:00.260 --> 00:52:02.559
carolyndeck: You've just stuck your arms out in faith.

676
00:52:04.330 --> 00:52:08.080
carolyndeck: and up you go, and you know what it's also, I think.

677
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carolyndeck: one of the birds with the sharpest eyes. So it's from great height it can see its prey.

678
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carolyndeck: Another thing the eagle has, which is unbelievable. You won't believe this for 40 days, and for 40 nights

679
00:52:24.170 --> 00:52:28.569
carolyndeck: every year the eagle goes and sits.

680
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carolyndeck: and solitude.

681
00:52:31.370 --> 00:52:36.180
carolyndeck: and preens its wings every feather it cleans

682
00:52:36.370 --> 00:52:38.979
carolyndeck: 40 days, 40 nights. Hmm!

683
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Tanya: I was just I was gonna say, that number.

684
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carolyndeck: Somebody else did that. I think Jesus did that for 40 days and 40 nights, and then He was tempted he was, and the Holy Spirit led him.

685
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carolyndeck: It said it was really fascinating. He was led to the desert

686
00:52:57.480 --> 00:53:01.770
carolyndeck: for 40 days, 40 nights he ain't nothing. This is what an eagle does.

687
00:53:01.810 --> 00:53:07.939
carolyndeck: and it sharpens its beak on the rocks, it cleans, it sharpens its claws.

688
00:53:09.030 --> 00:53:12.490
carolyndeck: It's just phenomenal. And I'm like.

689
00:53:12.610 --> 00:53:18.269
carolyndeck: Wow, God. Yes, you are above all things, and if I can, just

690
00:53:19.100 --> 00:53:26.649
carolyndeck: with my heart and arms wide open, come to you. You will carry me above the storm. I will get your perspective.

691
00:53:27.100 --> 00:53:29.900
carolyndeck: And I will fly high. And

692
00:53:30.910 --> 00:53:35.279
carolyndeck: yeah, it it works every time. It's precious.

693
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Tanya: I love that.

694
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carolyndeck: So I'd encourage you girls. Just

695
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carolyndeck: get in the word every day. Just see what he has to say, and then get around

696
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carolyndeck: either Christian friends, or or even like myself. I've for the last 3 years since Covid.

697
00:53:54.340 --> 00:53:57.020
carolyndeck: I've been on a global online

698
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carolyndeck: class.

699
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carolyndeck: So don't let that stop you that you don't have a car, or you know.

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Tanya: Yeah.

701
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carolyndeck: And what.

702
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Tanya: What is that online class that you do is that the Bsf, is that what.

703
00:54:09.350 --> 00:54:12.280
carolyndeck: Yes. Bible study, fellowship. Yeah.

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Tanya: Okay, maybe we could put that in the show notes, too.

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carolyndeck: Yeah, yeah, that would be great. Because what that does

706
00:54:18.860 --> 00:54:21.580
carolyndeck: really it copies what Jesus did.

707
00:54:21.970 --> 00:54:23.350
carolyndeck: what would he do?

708
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carolyndeck: So I was in leadership for a while. So basically, it follows the process. It says, Okay, God wants you to spend 15 min a day quiet time with him.

709
00:54:35.880 --> 00:54:40.790
carolyndeck: So you're in the word. You're opening your mind and your heart. You're saying

710
00:54:40.810 --> 00:54:47.609
carolyndeck: not what I believe I want to hear from you. So you have to posture yourself in that in that way.

711
00:54:47.730 --> 00:54:52.639
carolyndeck: Not that you think, you know. No, I don't know. What are you trying to tell me today? Lord.

712
00:54:52.730 --> 00:54:59.249
carolyndeck: you sit there. You read his word, and then you go through some questions each day.

713
00:55:00.070 --> 00:55:11.550
carolyndeck: and then at the end of that you come together as a group. So what did Jesus do? He'd spend time away in prayer with his Father, he would come back with His disciples.

714
00:55:12.570 --> 00:55:14.470
carolyndeck: and they would commune together.

715
00:55:15.270 --> 00:55:19.970
carolyndeck: and then he would go and teach. So after our group

716
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carolyndeck: study, we would then go into the hall together and listen to a lecture so online, obviously, you're not physically going somewhere. But you then listen to a lecture. So basically, what you're doing is you're having your own private time. You're having collective. And then you're getting even more

717
00:55:39.230 --> 00:55:41.360
carolyndeck: senior or or

718
00:55:41.440 --> 00:55:45.110
carolyndeck: profound understanding and knowledge of what you've just studied.

719
00:55:45.730 --> 00:55:46.770
carolyndeck: and

720
00:55:48.290 --> 00:55:49.880
carolyndeck: it is the

721
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carolyndeck: most profound study I've ever done. And each year you study a book for an entire year. So this year it wouldn't be too late. We're doing revelation.

722
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carolyndeck: It's my second second time during revelation I got because there's stuff in there that's really hard to understand.

723
00:56:11.620 --> 00:56:12.330
Tanya: Hmm.

724
00:56:12.590 --> 00:56:14.930
carolyndeck: But actually, when you do this group

725
00:56:15.160 --> 00:56:19.579
carolyndeck: all comes to light. It's it's it's amazing. So

726
00:56:19.800 --> 00:56:21.069
carolyndeck: if you can

727
00:56:22.190 --> 00:56:29.590
carolyndeck: get the right people around you. What are they saying? We tell our kids this, the 5 people you hang out with the most.

728
00:56:29.590 --> 00:56:33.299
Tanya: Yeah, you're the average of the 5 people you hang out with the most. Yeah.

729
00:56:33.300 --> 00:56:43.010
carolyndeck: Exactly so. Who's influencing you? So these are all choices, right? All intentional

730
00:56:44.240 --> 00:56:46.629
carolyndeck: choices. We have to make each day.

731
00:56:48.310 --> 00:56:56.580
carolyndeck: As I was saying to my dear mum, learning to walk again just recently in Christchurch, we facetime my grand, her grandson, my eldest boy.

732
00:56:56.920 --> 00:57:01.680
carolyndeck: Well done, Nana! Did you know that each little incremental step

733
00:57:01.760 --> 00:57:03.840
carolyndeck: you know it matters.

734
00:57:04.050 --> 00:57:08.519
carolyndeck: And now she's almost skipping down the hall. It was just like.

735
00:57:08.520 --> 00:57:10.130
Tanya: True it all adds up.

736
00:57:10.130 --> 00:57:11.810
carolyndeck: It adds up.

737
00:57:11.810 --> 00:57:12.480
Tanya: Yup!

738
00:57:12.690 --> 00:57:13.090
carolyndeck: Yeah.

739
00:57:13.090 --> 00:57:16.479
Tanya: So small little things that we do every day. Yeah.

740
00:57:16.820 --> 00:57:17.600
carolyndeck: Yeah.

741
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carolyndeck: So that's my advice. That's my, that's what's

742
00:57:24.580 --> 00:57:26.599
carolyndeck: help me together.

743
00:57:28.850 --> 00:57:33.510
carolyndeck: And instead of putting that expectation on my husband to hold me to get.

744
00:57:34.800 --> 00:57:36.480
carolyndeck: That's not his job.

745
00:57:36.480 --> 00:57:40.439
Tanya: It's not his job. Yeah, it's not his job. But that's what we think we put

746
00:57:40.890 --> 00:57:45.039
Tanya: or make our happiness dependent on other things. And for some people, it's

747
00:57:45.320 --> 00:57:55.400
Tanya: yeah. I need to find my partner before I can be happy, or I need to find the right job or or it's food, or it's alcohol, or you know. But.

748
00:57:55.400 --> 00:57:57.120
carolyndeck: Money, status.

749
00:57:57.690 --> 00:58:03.039
carolyndeck: Only I had that car, or lived in that house, or owned that boat, or whatever. Yeah.

750
00:58:03.040 --> 00:58:03.720
Tanya: Yeah.

751
00:58:05.200 --> 00:58:06.810
Tanya: Well, that's not where it's at.

752
00:58:07.410 --> 00:58:12.660
carolyndeck: No, it's not gonna help. But you know that it's just deception.

753
00:58:13.080 --> 00:58:13.390
carolyndeck: Yeah.

754
00:58:13.390 --> 00:58:14.300
Tanya: Yeah, yeah.

755
00:58:15.820 --> 00:58:19.589
Tanya: Off. But be like the eagle like, Carolyn said, and just

756
00:58:20.320 --> 00:58:23.700
Tanya: put your arms out and have faith, and

757
00:58:24.240 --> 00:58:29.209
Tanya: know that the storm will pass, and you'll rise above it, and you'll be able to see

758
00:58:29.680 --> 00:58:32.450
Tanya: at that different new perspective.

759
00:58:32.940 --> 00:58:34.110
carolyndeck: Absolutely.

760
00:58:34.400 --> 00:58:35.000
Tanya: Yeah.

761
00:58:36.580 --> 00:58:46.589
Tanya: so for the mom who is listening, who is just like so overwhelmed with everything she's juggling, and she feels like she's doing everything she can just to like.

762
00:58:46.590 --> 00:58:47.369
carolyndeck: Give her head of.

763
00:58:47.370 --> 00:58:49.009
Tanya: Above the water. In this.

764
00:58:49.010 --> 00:58:49.600
carolyndeck: Season.

765
00:58:49.600 --> 00:58:57.960
Tanya: That she's in just like you were when you had the 5 kids and your husband's off traveling, and you're doing it all by yourself. But

766
00:58:58.350 --> 00:59:00.200
Tanya: maybe she's

767
00:59:00.460 --> 00:59:08.160
Tanya: just feels like she's too tired to even think about or care about doing the work necessary to

768
00:59:08.200 --> 00:59:12.050
Tanya: nurture her relationship with her spouse.

769
00:59:12.760 --> 00:59:23.820
Tanya: Can you suggest any small, easy steps, or just one thing that she can take today where that would help her start like improving in this area?

770
00:59:29.240 --> 00:59:32.979
carolyndeck: For me. It just keeps going back to a mindset.

771
00:59:33.280 --> 00:59:33.890
Tanya: Hmm.

772
00:59:35.160 --> 00:59:35.860
carolyndeck: Yeah.

773
00:59:36.120 --> 00:59:38.880
carolyndeck: remember, stop. Just

774
00:59:39.820 --> 00:59:42.989
carolyndeck: stop. It's okay to stop girls.

775
00:59:43.580 --> 00:59:53.100
carolyndeck: as my mom said. You know, when I was trying to potty train. And then, and then you go from potty training to Nappy train, you know, and she goes. Look, darling.

776
00:59:53.270 --> 00:59:57.819
carolyndeck: I don't know that there are any children that go to school at 5, and they're nappies.

777
00:59:57.930 --> 01:00:00.020
carolyndeck: Just relax.

778
01:00:00.140 --> 01:00:03.930
carolyndeck: Yeah, okay, stop trying to push the envelope.

779
01:00:04.590 --> 01:00:06.449
carolyndeck: So it's okay to stop

780
01:00:07.716 --> 01:00:08.370
carolyndeck: the wheel.

781
01:00:08.370 --> 01:00:08.910
Tanya: That's right.

782
01:00:08.910 --> 01:00:09.790
carolyndeck: All off.

783
01:00:10.160 --> 01:00:11.729
carolyndeck: they won't fall off.

784
01:00:13.570 --> 01:00:16.879
carolyndeck: and maybe in your mind

785
01:00:17.450 --> 01:00:19.219
carolyndeck: if you could go back.

786
01:00:19.460 --> 01:00:26.089
carolyndeck: And this is the revelation story, too, actually, that, Jesus said, you've lost your 1st love.

787
01:00:27.540 --> 01:00:37.649
carolyndeck: He was talking about the church actually, and their love for Christ. But for you girls, maybe if you just stop and remember, get a photo album out, or

788
01:00:37.790 --> 01:00:41.140
carolyndeck: that shows my age. Get get your phone out.

789
01:00:41.611 --> 01:00:43.970
Tanya: That was good. That was.

790
01:00:44.678 --> 01:00:48.220
carolyndeck: Get your phone out and.

791
01:00:48.220 --> 01:00:48.660
Tanya: That's.

792
01:00:48.660 --> 01:00:50.550
carolyndeck: Stop and pause

793
01:00:51.140 --> 01:00:54.760
carolyndeck: and go back to when you were dating, or go back to those

794
01:00:54.830 --> 01:01:00.459
carolyndeck: times where I don't know, you did something that you recall you, but just

795
01:01:00.660 --> 01:01:01.829
carolyndeck: just it was

796
01:01:01.840 --> 01:01:11.449
carolyndeck: almost ecstasy. You know what I mean, and look into your eyes and look into your husband's eyes, and remember the love

797
01:01:13.700 --> 01:01:16.070
carolyndeck: and remember how that grew.

798
01:01:17.400 --> 01:01:19.140
carolyndeck: How did that grow?

799
01:01:20.070 --> 01:01:21.290
carolyndeck: How did that

800
01:01:22.110 --> 01:01:24.670
carolyndeck: that relationship grow

801
01:01:25.210 --> 01:01:29.719
carolyndeck: with such love into you now being married?

802
01:01:32.020 --> 01:01:38.709
carolyndeck: So you think back then, what incremental baby steps could I now take

803
01:01:38.940 --> 01:01:39.850
carolyndeck: back

804
01:01:40.030 --> 01:01:41.210
carolyndeck: to that?

805
01:01:41.380 --> 01:01:44.140
carolyndeck: What did I do back then? That was so

806
01:01:44.450 --> 01:01:47.749
carolyndeck: precious that I love doing that for him.

807
01:01:47.940 --> 01:01:53.709
carolyndeck: because that's what we did when we're dating right, we'd do anything we'd fly to the moon. We'd do. We need.

808
01:01:53.710 --> 01:01:54.070
Tanya: Through.

809
01:01:54.070 --> 01:01:56.809
carolyndeck: Hot, hot curry, for goodness sake! And yike.

810
01:01:58.491 --> 01:02:06.060
carolyndeck: you know. So just pause. Look back.

811
01:02:06.150 --> 01:02:08.049
carolyndeck: Look at that joy.

812
01:02:08.200 --> 01:02:10.920
carolyndeck: Maybe print that photo

813
01:02:11.350 --> 01:02:15.500
carolyndeck: right? So it's in your face every day.

814
01:02:15.960 --> 01:02:17.149
carolyndeck: and have it.

815
01:02:17.150 --> 01:02:19.230
Tanya: They get a wallpaper on your phone that

816
01:02:19.710 --> 01:02:21.500
Tanya: instead of your kids like, I have.

817
01:02:21.500 --> 01:02:23.400
carolyndeck: Exactly.

818
01:02:23.400 --> 01:02:23.980
Tanya: But it.

819
01:02:23.980 --> 01:02:33.220
carolyndeck: Open your cupboard door, the laundry door, and see him. So, instead of being grouching oh, look at all this! And then you look at that. And you think, Oh, that's right.

820
01:02:34.830 --> 01:02:36.099
carolyndeck: And I think

821
01:02:36.650 --> 01:02:39.829
carolyndeck: maybe every day just start every day

822
01:02:40.230 --> 01:02:45.640
carolyndeck: doing a little something, or actually that that's put me onto this other

823
01:02:45.940 --> 01:02:49.699
carolyndeck: book. Another resource. 5. Love languages.

824
01:02:50.160 --> 01:02:51.526
Tanya: Oh, yeah.

825
01:02:52.210 --> 01:02:55.649
carolyndeck: Know what your partner's love language is.

826
01:02:56.320 --> 01:02:59.500
carolyndeck: Okay. So see if I can remember them.

827
01:02:59.800 --> 01:03:05.619
carolyndeck: The 1st one is what I always needed and felt I didn't always get, which was words of affirmation.

828
01:03:06.270 --> 01:03:08.150
carolyndeck: I need to be told

829
01:03:08.280 --> 01:03:09.990
carolyndeck: you're doing a good job.

830
01:03:10.110 --> 01:03:13.980
carolyndeck: so maybe he needs to know you're a great father.

831
01:03:14.550 --> 01:03:20.129
carolyndeck: You're such a great father and and a great husband. Thank you for providing.

832
01:03:20.310 --> 01:03:21.154
Tanya: Right

833
01:03:22.000 --> 01:03:23.380
carolyndeck: Speak that language.

834
01:03:23.440 --> 01:03:25.630
carolyndeck: Maybe it is touch.

835
01:03:25.920 --> 01:03:29.850
carolyndeck: Maybe when you're watching, he's watching the football or something.

836
01:03:30.070 --> 01:03:30.860
carolyndeck: Just

837
01:03:31.120 --> 01:03:33.729
carolyndeck: hold his hand, or just

838
01:03:34.060 --> 01:03:43.690
carolyndeck: I don't know. Just think of a way, and I don't mean sex necessarily, you know, it can be just a gentle touch or a.

839
01:03:43.690 --> 01:03:44.580
Tanya: Yeah.

840
01:03:44.780 --> 01:03:45.520
Tanya: yeah.

841
01:03:45.520 --> 01:03:49.930
carolyndeck: Or or that kiss in the morning before they go, and said, I'll see you, you know.

842
01:03:49.930 --> 01:03:50.380
Tanya: Yeah.

843
01:03:50.380 --> 01:03:53.919
carolyndeck: You know, you know, like, Get out of here. I've got so much to do, you know.

844
01:03:53.920 --> 01:03:54.400
Tanya: Right.

845
01:03:55.680 --> 01:03:57.389
carolyndeck: Sort of thing, you know. Just

846
01:03:58.255 --> 01:04:03.909
carolyndeck: okay. So affirmation, there's touch. There's acts of kindness. So

847
01:04:04.780 --> 01:04:13.309
carolyndeck: find something that perhaps you used to do when you were dating that you knew. Just let him up. I don't know. So you know what I used to do when my husband travel

848
01:04:13.380 --> 01:04:22.529
carolyndeck: back. Then I had a business card. I don't. But anymore. But I would write on my business card. I love you and put it in his socks.

849
01:04:23.440 --> 01:04:25.329
Tanya: Oh, that's so cute.

850
01:04:25.710 --> 01:04:32.638
carolyndeck: Oh, so he's traveling wherever he is. And then he what's this anymore? Oh, hello!

851
01:04:33.950 --> 01:04:36.010
carolyndeck: So so grab that book.

852
01:04:36.040 --> 01:04:39.029
carolyndeck: learn your husband's love language

853
01:04:40.280 --> 01:04:42.249
carolyndeck: and speak into that.

854
01:04:42.580 --> 01:04:44.539
carolyndeck: and you will start

855
01:04:45.160 --> 01:04:47.230
carolyndeck: to get love language back.

856
01:04:48.590 --> 01:04:49.430
carolyndeck: Yeah.

857
01:04:50.240 --> 01:04:50.630
Tanya: That's it.

858
01:04:50.630 --> 01:05:02.199
carolyndeck: What I would. Just little baby steps. And you know what Rick Warren said. This he's done thousands of marriage guidance counseling, he said, forget what you feel. He says. Feelings lie, you know.

859
01:05:02.200 --> 01:05:03.120
Tanya: Yeah, they do.

860
01:05:03.120 --> 01:05:21.069
carolyndeck: That your heart is full of deceit. Let me tell you. They trip you up. That's part of Satan's ploy, by the way, but so don't listen to your feelings. Just start doing those little baby things of love, those little acts of love towards them, and guess what

861
01:05:21.500 --> 01:05:23.360
carolyndeck: your feelings will change.

862
01:05:23.750 --> 01:05:24.420
Tanya: Yeah.

863
01:05:24.690 --> 01:05:27.719
carolyndeck: Yeah, just every day, just a little something.

864
01:05:28.090 --> 01:05:28.780
Tanya: Yeah.

865
01:05:28.780 --> 01:05:32.970
carolyndeck: I I can assure you. You know, like, if it's really gone a bit south.

866
01:05:33.300 --> 01:05:35.349
carolyndeck: it's gonna take a lot.

867
01:05:35.760 --> 01:05:36.760
Tanya: Yeah.

868
01:05:36.760 --> 01:05:44.619
carolyndeck: Let's not be delusional. It's how long have you been married? If it's 5 years? Well, guess what? It's not going to take 5 years. Let's hope and pray to get.

869
01:05:44.620 --> 01:05:50.229
Tanya: But don't be overwhelmed by that. Just like you said, like those small incremental steps.

870
01:05:50.640 --> 01:05:55.170
carolyndeck: Yeah, and attitude of gratitude. Girls.

871
01:05:55.170 --> 01:05:56.190
Tanya: Yeah,

872
01:05:57.210 --> 01:05:58.269
carolyndeck: Yeah, get rid of.

873
01:05:58.270 --> 01:05:59.810
Tanya: No change at all.

874
01:06:00.000 --> 01:06:03.999
carolyndeck: Stinking, thinking does not help at all.

875
01:06:04.180 --> 01:06:05.650
carolyndeck: so

876
01:06:05.810 --> 01:06:06.900
carolyndeck: I would

877
01:06:07.380 --> 01:06:21.530
carolyndeck: spend time in the word, have God fill your cup each day, ask him for the strength that you need to to have your day. You know. Do what you need to do, ask him to show you even

878
01:06:21.690 --> 01:06:32.630
carolyndeck: what language would best speak to your husband that day and just start doing it. Just do it. Forget what your head saying. Forget what your heart says. Just do it.

879
01:06:34.840 --> 01:06:35.620
carolyndeck: Yeah.

880
01:06:36.060 --> 01:06:36.940
carolyndeck: yeah.

881
01:06:37.820 --> 01:06:40.790
carolyndeck: yeah. And then be kind to yourself.

882
01:06:41.350 --> 01:06:42.070
carolyndeck: yeah, you know.

883
01:06:42.070 --> 01:06:42.850
Tanya: Yeah, I.

884
01:06:42.850 --> 01:06:44.409
carolyndeck: Who did I hear

885
01:06:44.480 --> 01:06:53.310
carolyndeck: the other day I was listening to another. Podcast see, I just do so much stuff that just keeps feeding my heart, my soul, and my mind. And she said, You know.

886
01:06:54.160 --> 01:06:58.690
carolyndeck: what did Jesus say? I have a new commandment. The commandment is this, forget

887
01:06:58.910 --> 01:07:05.849
carolyndeck: well, not totally forget the you know the 10 Commandments. But I've got a new commandment. Okay, this is refreshing this one.

888
01:07:05.990 --> 01:07:11.289
carolyndeck: Love God with all your heart, mind, and soul. So whatever that looks like, you've got to work that out.

889
01:07:11.600 --> 01:07:15.769
carolyndeck: Love your neighbor as yourself. Well, right now. Your neighbor's your husband.

890
01:07:16.260 --> 01:07:16.610
Tanya: Hmm.

891
01:07:16.610 --> 01:07:17.330
carolyndeck: Huh!

892
01:07:17.750 --> 01:07:19.540
carolyndeck: To love him. Well.

893
01:07:19.780 --> 01:07:21.580
carolyndeck: you need to love yourself so.

894
01:07:21.580 --> 01:07:23.519
Tanya: You need to love yourself. And that's

895
01:07:24.900 --> 01:07:25.220
Tanya: saying.

896
01:07:25.220 --> 01:07:27.570
carolyndeck: I think that could be the thing.

897
01:07:27.570 --> 01:07:29.440
Tanya: That's the issue is learning to love.

898
01:07:29.440 --> 01:07:30.070
carolyndeck: I mean you're.

899
01:07:30.070 --> 01:07:42.749
Tanya: Because if you're supposed to treat your neighbor like you treat yourself well, I don't treat myself very good, or I don't love myself so if I'm not loving myself, I'm going to project that onto the person beside my love. Yeah, I know.

900
01:07:42.750 --> 01:07:46.540
carolyndeck: Yeah, be kind. Be kind to yourself.

901
01:07:46.540 --> 01:07:47.110
Tanya: Yeah.

902
01:07:47.110 --> 01:07:59.480
carolyndeck: Again, I just love. Okay. So another thing I listened to this morning justified, you know, as a Christian you're now justified, which means justified, never sinned.

903
01:07:59.730 --> 01:08:01.079
carolyndeck: Isn't that good?

904
01:08:02.020 --> 01:08:06.930
carolyndeck: The word justified, justified, and never send. So

905
01:08:07.340 --> 01:08:16.229
carolyndeck: when we robe ourselves in how the Lord thinks of us, how God sees us as white as snow.

906
01:08:16.590 --> 01:08:24.329
carolyndeck: And this precious child, if we can think of ourselves like that, then you can start to love your neighbor as yourself.

907
01:08:24.359 --> 01:08:25.410
carolyndeck: so

908
01:08:25.580 --> 01:08:29.290
carolyndeck: dive into what God says about you. It is

909
01:08:29.490 --> 01:08:31.629
carolyndeck: precious, let me tell you.

910
01:08:31.770 --> 01:08:34.930
carolyndeck: when you see how much He loves you.

911
01:08:35.899 --> 01:08:37.000
carolyndeck: Wow!

912
01:08:37.740 --> 01:08:38.430
Tanya: Hmm.

913
01:08:38.840 --> 01:08:39.670
carolyndeck: Been

914
01:08:40.050 --> 01:08:44.100
carolyndeck: that thing that you have that you don't like about yourself.

915
01:08:46.229 --> 01:08:48.799
carolyndeck: it'll slowly start to

916
01:08:48.920 --> 01:08:50.140
carolyndeck: fall away.

917
01:08:50.510 --> 01:08:52.960
carolyndeck: So love yourself, love

918
01:08:53.020 --> 01:08:56.390
carolyndeck: yourself, walks and all just like he does.

919
01:08:56.520 --> 01:08:58.679
carolyndeck: He loves you so much.

920
01:08:58.819 --> 01:09:02.330
carolyndeck: So again, when we fly above

921
01:09:03.380 --> 01:09:10.969
carolyndeck: that stinking thinking of ourselves, we have new eyes, and that there's light, and it's beautiful.

922
01:09:11.850 --> 01:09:12.540
carolyndeck: Hmm.

923
01:09:13.430 --> 01:09:22.620
Tanya: I love that well before we wrap up today, Carolyn, can you again just share the names of your those 2 books and tell people where they can go to find you.

924
01:09:22.620 --> 01:09:30.360
carolyndeck: Sure. So they'll be on Amazon. Above the turbulence, your ticket out of pain to purpose.

925
01:09:31.569 --> 01:09:39.159
carolyndeck: and the other one I co-authored. So there are many Christian authors, Christian marriage

926
01:09:39.300 --> 01:09:42.169
carolyndeck: devotionals from both perspectives.

927
01:09:42.939 --> 01:09:46.089
Tanya: Awesome Carolyn Deck. Thank you so much.

928
01:09:46.090 --> 01:09:46.720
carolyndeck: Watch again.

929
01:09:46.720 --> 01:09:49.890
Tanya: For returning to the momentum Podcast.

930
01:09:49.899 --> 01:09:50.809
carolyndeck: Your cameras.

931
01:09:50.810 --> 01:10:14.939
Tanya: Sharing your time and your wisdom, and I know you've blessed the lives of so many who are tuning in today, and you have for sure blessed mine, and I want to just acknowledge you for everything that you're doing in the world, to spread the good word and uplift and inspire others from your books to your speaking engagements and the content you put out on social media.

932
01:10:14.970 --> 01:10:25.439
Tanya: and you have such a big heart, and I think it's just so extraordinary that you are donating all of the proceeds from your book to faces with names.

933
01:10:26.890 --> 01:10:42.739
Tanya: And I want to which I will include again a link to faces with names in that Youtube video, right? That you shared with me. I'll include that in the show notes. So people can learn more about that.

934
01:10:42.740 --> 01:10:43.719
carolyndeck: Donate, to.

935
01:10:43.720 --> 01:10:44.620
Tanya: Yes, yes.

936
01:10:44.620 --> 01:10:48.559
carolyndeck: If you if you want to. Yeah, your heart is led to do that. Yeah.

937
01:10:48.560 --> 01:10:50.680
Tanya: Yes, that would be wonderful.

938
01:10:51.210 --> 01:11:16.780
Tanya: So everybody go find Carolyn Deck go by above the turbulence. I always talk about being the gatekeepers of our mind, and not allowing the bad stuff in, and only allowing the good stuff in. And this book is like brain fuel that will help you master your mind so you can ditch that victim mentality and rise above the challenges in your life.

939
01:11:17.070 --> 01:11:21.130
Tanya: and you can feel good about your purchase, knowing that it's going to a good cause, too.

940
01:11:21.590 --> 01:11:23.490
Tanya: So all right, Carolyn. Thank you.

941
01:11:23.490 --> 01:11:24.449
carolyndeck: Thanks so much, and.

942
01:11:24.450 --> 01:11:25.409
Tanya: And and I'll talk.

943
01:11:25.410 --> 01:11:26.570
carolyndeck: Love you.

944
01:11:26.570 --> 01:11:29.350
Tanya: I love you too. Bye.

945
01:11:29.350 --> 01:11:30.320
carolyndeck: Bye.

Isn’t she wonderful? And don’t you just love her accent?

 

Carolyn shared so much great advice today, but what really stood out to me was something she mentioned early on. When we catch ourselves feeling resentful or angry at our spouse, we should pause and ask ourselves two key questions:

 

1. What unfair expectation am I holding? What do I expect from him, and is it even fair? Have I communicated this expectation to him? For example, maybe you expect him to buy you flowers on your birthday. But if you haven’t told him, is it fair to expect him to read your mind?

 

2. What have I not voiced that I should have? Are there things I haven’t communicated? And am I expressing myself in a respectful, productive way—rather than resorting to yelling or frustration?

 

Carolyn also highlighted the importance of examining our beliefs. What are your beliefs about marriage? What does being a “good wife” or a “good husband” mean to you? Then, get real with yourself—are these beliefs actually true? Take stock of your marriage right now, and realize it’s a reflection of your belief system. Then ask, what do I want my marriage to look like, and what beliefs do I need to change to achieve that?

 

Another crucial point Carolyn made was the importance of seeking to understand. Put yourself in your partner’s shoes. What’s going on for them? Of course, your needs, desires, and feelings are valid, but remember that your spouse—the person you fell in love with—has their own needs, wants, fears, and worries too. If we take time to understand their perspective, we move from a place of resentment to one of compassion. And from there, it’s much easier to create peaceful, loving reconciliation and build closer, more intimate relationships.

 

Thank you so much for tuning in today! I hope you found today’s episode valuable. If you did, I’d truly appreciate it if you could leave a rating and review—it helps more people find the show. And don’t forget to share your takeaways and tag Carolyn and me on social media! We’d love to hear from you.

 

Alright, mamas, have a wonderful week! Bye!

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